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charley

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Question Can anyone help me out there? Can i convert my inverter arc welder to a plasma cutter, its a small single phase 140 amp arc welder inverter, I have an air compressor but are reluctant to buy the plasma leads & air regulator if this machine of mine all not do the job,

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bametalart

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Idea Hey Charley, I hate to break the bad news to you, but I'm pretty sure you can't without buying a plasma cutter made to run on a arc welder as a power point i.e. suitcase plasma unit. I don't know how detailed your cuts have to be, but you can use a airarc to make cuts on almost every type of material knowm to man. I'm not sure what a set up costs and you'll need to buy carbon cutting rods. It sounds like you are confusing a plasma cutter with and airarc or maybe I'm wrong and airarc is just a brand name for an arc plasma cutter. I have used an airarc in the field for cutting man made alloys, but the cuts are rough and not pretty. I hope this clears up some confusion.

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charley

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thanks for that, but thought that the inverter welder that i have would be the power source? & that the plasma power lead/torch was the main part of the plasma system.
I could hook the plasma airline feed to an air regulator & run this of my shop compressor for the air feed that is required in plasma cutters.
I have used this welder for tig welding on site as its a small lightweight caddy style unit, all i do is swap over my tig leads of my larger shop machine,
please tell me if i am wasting my time?

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bametalart

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I think your best bet is to go to your local welding supply store and ask them.

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charley

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Question any one else with a view on this plasma cutter,

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stingshp

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HI Charley
I have for many years looked to have one piece of shop equip. with a simple changeover it could become multiple tools .After doing research on the feasablity of such a plan which lead me to many knowledegable people and much personnel time used .I found the trade off's and expense wasn't worth it . I think your answer lies with a Welder Repairman ,he can advise you if it's what you need and how it can be done .
Honestly ,I find in the end I was better off buying quaility machine as I lost a great deal of labor hours searching for an answer .
Please keep in the loop as you locate answers .
GordonB

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fred26t

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Looking at the postings I fear this site is close to dieing. It has been a long, long time since Jim B, Ron F, Ron C, or Paul P, Kent W. have posted. They are the top group of formers in the world and they seam to have gone else where. I hope some can save and some how make avaliable to the world the tool and tricks they all showed us novices. Thanks Terry. Fred26T

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stingshp

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Hi Fred
I understand your feelings .When we lost T.C. I'm afraid all the momentum left with him .
It was Terrys personnel Job to drive the conversations and be involved in it's growth .
Times have changed Metalshaping ,Peoples priorities change ,Groups involved with the topic Metalshaping have Focused on specific areas within and followed their interest. With that many earlier members here are in all the groups .The early days of Metalshapers Assoc. were very heady times and great deal of information was brought to the table by people that had found a place to discuss their interest with others like minded people .
Now I'm speaking for myself . I joined on with Terry as a Moderator to help relieve some of the load taking place in the growth of MSA and his desire to build a website to store all the information that was being passed along . AS time moved to current time my Business has grown and requires more of my time which we must do in a situation of growth .Unfortunately it takes me away from here and I find little time to post my projects and keep current with what's going on .
Yours ,Gordon Bartlett

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wdsmith

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Things have been less than frantic around here of late.
I noticed it but wrote it off to, "everybody else is fighting for survival too."
Between economics, weather and seasonal requirements (I can't bring myself to say "weeds and grass cutting) it is amazing how busy a feller can be while remaining unproductive.
Although that was my assumption, I sure hope it was wrong. Somebody must have been doing something of note.... haven't they?

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fred26t

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I talked with Ron Covell a while back and he said he was just to busy. Each time you ask about Jim B. we are told the car he is working on can't be shown. Don't know about the rest. Fred26t

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fred26t

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I talked with Ron Covell a while back and he said he was just to busy. Each time you ask about Jim B. we are told the car he is working on can't be shown. Don't know about the rest. Fred26t

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shoe2

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Did find the cow. Look see.



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    fred26t

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    I notice all the pro's no longer advertise here anymore. Fred26T

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    shoe2

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    The first thing a businessman cuts is his advertising budget when money is tight. Here; everyone knows of them anyway. I'm glad the money was spent when it was there as they taught me and many others well. Schooling you can't beat. Aren't we all thankful that these men had a vision for their trade to share and teach before all was lost to history. Was out looking at a DC-3 airplane of all aluminum the other day and thinking of all the men and motion it took to acheive that final product to serve mankind. The American commerce of yesterday is but a hobby to a few today.

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    mikeinmilwaukee

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    Doug, You are spot on in your analysis. Following it through there is another issue to consider.
    It has been the business sense and generosity of those who chose to put their money down with Metalshapers which has , in the past, covered the bills for the website.
    There is still some money in the bank , but it is dwindling.
    It might be a good time for those who use the website to donate a few bucks to keep things afloat.

    I have no doubt that as things recover more folks will have free time to spend conversing and pursuing metal shaping as a hobby, and those pursuing it as a business will be a bit more flush.
    Right now everyone is scrambling.
    While from a mental health point of view NOW is the time to pursue the fun stuff, just to keep things in perspective, most just scramble even harder.

    Mike Graf

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    fred26t

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    What a nice post on building an aluminium cowel and fitting it to the Ryan aircraft. It showed lots of detail and had great photos. Would like to know Ron's last name. He is a great metalshaper. Fred26T

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    shoe2

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    Fred; There was an airplane fella in the Covell class in North Texas that built a filler on a horzontial stablizer base for some vintage airplane(s). He was a fine fella, mid build, studied man with black and gray hair. Think he worked out of some airport south of Dallas.
    Those Covell programs were exciting and educational with a classroom of craftsman sharing their work. You saw some unique projects. Ah! For more weekends like that. Just to do my own stuff.
    You ever read any of the Roscoe Turner stories on the Thompson Trophy Air Racers of the nineteen and thirty's? Great reads on classic aluminum and fabric airplanes. The Champion racer of Turner's think called "Meteor" airplane was skinned in all aluminum. I met old Turner when I was a boy there in Indianapolis. He had a hanger on the field and started the airline my dad flew for. Lake Central. Central had alot of good pilots there. One I remember flew PBY's in the II War. Those scout planes flew for 14 hours over the Pacific. Man learns his craft sitting that long at it. Those planes were all stressed aluminum skined structures as well. Riveted together and formed panels strong enough to land on water. Think that Meteor racer was the one rebuilt copy that crashed not long ago. The gal wrote about it in "Flying Magazine" awhile back as she was one of the guys girlfriend at the time. Seems read that it had a yaw at speed due to the placement of the wings in the fuselage. Course, Weedell Willams made his racers in the smaller class similar as the practice was believed to reduce prop drag probably.

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    shoe2

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    Hey Mike Graf your right! Time to pitch forth for the sight. I've learned and enjoyed immensely the information here so where do I send the check? Will look up at the home page for an address, if not help me out. Thank you and thanks for those who keep up the sight.

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    mikeinmilwaukee

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    On the sites front page you will see this in the top 1/4 page.

    The Metalshapers Association web site depends on your
    donations and memberships to keep it going. Thanks for helping!

    Please welcome Metalshapers' newest member: bill russell
    There are now 6491 registered Metalshaper members. Join us!

    The words Metalshapers, donations and memberships are hot links. The first goes to a page telling the sites purpose and general guidelines for usage.
    The second set goes to the donations page.

    Mike Graf

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    mikeinmilwaukee

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    On the sites front page you will see this in the top 1/4 page.

    The Metalshapers Association web site depends on your
    donations and memberships to keep it going. Thanks for helping!

    Please welcome Metalshapers' newest member: bill russell
    There are now 6491 registered Metalshaper members. Join us!

    The words Metalshapers, donations and memberships are hot links. The first goes to a page telling the sites purpose and general guidelines for usage.
    The second set goes to the donations page.

    Mike Graf

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    shoe2

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    The Watson Indy Roadster nose and hood metalwork is that of a master craftsman. Check it out at Texas Open Wheel. Geeezzzzzzzz!!!!! A hammer perhaps never touched that top half of the hood. Is that the most beautiful metal forming? Look at those seams. My gosh, it is some very nicest work that could have been done. Aren't we luck to see it. From the mind, hands and knowldege of a Champion Race Car builder.
    Ok. Found the address to send the check on the site. Money's mailed. Been busy racing! Wondered how are friends are in Australia? Christ Church was hit hard. Know anything?

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    stingshp

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    Hey Doug
    Been out racing , Thats a good way to spend money .
    How's your peddle car coming along ?
    We're getting ready for a Gathering in Gatesville on Nov. 13th ,you coming along ?
    GordonB

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    shoe2

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    Yah, raced cheap, might as well come and see what your up to. So we all wearing "Ranger Red" (for the Texas World Series Baseball team) shaping metal and having fun in the Heart of Texas on a late fall day. OK!
    Need to practice some louver making for the peddlers. Have some 6061 to bring the guys might like to see how works. Like to get to Trident and p/u some thin (.020) or near 3003h14 if time allows.
    That ain't far west outside of Waco. What's lunch there boiled "Armadillo Sourkraut Sausage" with potatoes? That is a German part of town. Hungry already!!!

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